Gudy 870 Adhesive

by Alan Hulme and David Thomas  - November 1988

 

No, you don't have spots before your eyes, the title is Gudy 870 Adhesive!  It is the name of a product which has been around for some time, and which is not generally known about.  I have been trying it for the past 6 months and I think you PSS modellers might well find it interesting.

 

The product is a high strength acrylic-ester adhesive film, made by the German firm of Neschen UK.  It's main use is in the industrial photographic industry, for the permanent mounting of photos onto card backing.  The film itself is pure adhesive, rolled onto a silicon paper backing.  For this reason it is extremely lightweight, somewhere in the region of 5gm/sq metre, due to the fact that it is only 40 microns thick.  OK - so what use is it to you?

 

Well, it is really excellent for sticking veneer to foam - permanently!  I have tested it on scraps of white polystyrene foam block.  After 48 hours curing time, any attempt to break the 2 blocks apart inevitably results in the foam breaking, and not the glue joint.  In addition, I have built a 50" span wing for a 3.5cc trainer, using the Clark Y section.  This was placed on the work surface so that half of one panel overhung the edge.  The tip was then loaded with 7kg of scrap metal, which is a fair amount of weight.  There was no obvious bending after 15 minutes.  The wing was made of white foam and veneer, stuck in place with Gudy 870.

 

Now, we all know that one of the things that adds a lot of weight when building with foam is the adhesive used to glue the veneer.  Reducing this makes the smaller models better flyers.  While it is probably an inappropriate example, think of this - If Simon Cocker had built the wing of his monster B-52 using Gudy 870 he would have added just 25 grams in adhesive!  How much did he use in fact?  With a model in the 50" span range, the weight of adhesive would be almost non-existent, and that is only taking the wing into account.

 

In use, Gudy 870 is simplicity itself.  Sand the veneer and the foam to a fine finish.  Brush or vacuum both - any dust will prevent a good joint.  Place the veneer on the film, press down firmly and then cut round the outline with a good modelling knife.  Turn it over, and press the whole surface firmly with the fingertips.  If you have a heat gun, a quick blast will help.  Now pull off the silicon backing paper, turn it over, place on the foam and press all over.  And that's it!!  Because of its chemical formulation, it will take about 48 hours to achieve 80% of its final adhesive strength, but in fact it is so strong that it can be used straight away.  And, unlike some glues, it ages extremely well.

 

However, that is not the whole story, Gudy 870 has another property which many of you will probably find interesting.  We all know what happens when you are building a fuselage or nose block made up by gluing blocks of foam together.  When it comes to the hot wire cutter bit, the glue joint is a pig to cut, especially epoxy.  Well, the cutter goes through the Gudy 870 joint as if it wasn't there!  In addition, if you sand the joint, there is no noticeable difference in the joint and the pure foam either side of it.  In fact, I have made several cowls for power planes using this method, and now I wouldn't use anything else.

 

A further example, if necessary, would be the .60 engined power plane I have recently built, using Gudy 870 to stick all the ply doublers to the fuselage sides.  The plane has already had a dozen flights, and there is no sign of any weakness.  If the stuff will take the vibration, it must be good on a soarer!

One last thing - PRICE.  A roll of Gudy 870 32.5ft x 2ft (10m x 60cm) will set you back the very reasonable sum of £25 (at the time of writing).  Compare this to the surface area you could cover with your usual adhesive.  It may be a little more expensive, but that is not the point - you are not doing it for the money saving.  If you want to get hold of some Gudy 870, the address is :

 

Neschen UK

Emerald Way

Stone Business Park

Stone

STAFFS

England

ST15 0SR 

 

Tel : 01785 610110

 

 


 

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